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"We Don't Have People Problems" And What It Really Means

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Key takeaways

  1. [00:41] Every single time someone tells me they don't have people problems, they hand me the full list two minutes later.
  2. [01:35] Owners hide behind that phrase because admitting a people problem feels like admitting a leadership problem they own.
  3. [02:32] We don't have a hiring problem in the trades. We have a retention problem, and the numbers don't lie.
  4. [04:20] Nobody looks up and says the roof isn't leaking. If you announce it, you already know something is wrong.
  5. [05:47] Every business that runs on people will have people problems, and that's fine because nobody is perfect.
  6. [06:06] Most of what you call a people problem is a system problem showing up through your people.
  7. [08:09] Field supervisors who tolerate tardiness, rework, and toxic behavior turn it into the new normal and push good people out.
  8. [10:48] Fixing people is hard. Fixing systems is not. Hand good systems to good people and they work magic.

"We don't have people problems." I hear it on almost every first call. Then two minutes later I get the list: the superintendent nobody wants to work under, the guy who is late every Monday, the crew that keeps turning over. This episode is about why owners say it, what it hides, and what the real problem actually is.

The List Always Follows the Denial

Every single time somebody opens with "we don't have people problems," a list comes out. We're good. Everything's perfect. We could use more people, but other than that. Oh, and actually, there's this one superintendent we struggle with a little.

Here is why that happens. Admitting a people problem feels like admitting a leadership problem. If you are the leader, that lands on you. So we hide behind the phrase. It's easier to ignore than it is to admit we are part of the problem.

Denial is fine as long as you are comfortable admitting you are in denial. It's the oil leak in the driveway. It's the stain on the ceiling. We don't have a leak. It's just a little rain. It'll dry out. Meanwhile the wood underneath keeps rotting.

The other reason owners say it is social. The second you tell a peer "we're having a real problem with Jimmy," you have opened a can of worms, and now you have to talk about it again. Saying nothing is quieter. It's also expensive.

You Don't Have a Hiring Problem. You Have a Retention Problem.

I read an article recently from a large software company in the construction space, and they finally said the thing out loud. Stop obsessing over bringing more people in, getting the next generation excited, partnering with schools. Start asking how we keep the people we already have.

I have said it for years and I will keep saying it. We do not have a hiring problem in the trades. The numbers don't lie. We have a retention problem. When everybody in a market recycles the same guys over and over because nobody keeps them, that is not a labor shortage. That is fifty cents an hour and a belief that the grass is greener. Sometimes they come back and find out it wasn't.

Instead we blame. Kids these days. The economy. The market. The competition. Everybody's leaving for a dollar more.

I built the W2 Test for this exact conversation. Count your employees on December 31st. Count the W2s you issued that year. The gap tells you the truth faster than any exit interview. I dug into the same math from a different angle in Why Every Business in Your Industry Leaks Money.

Ask anyone in your building to finish this sentence: people don't leave jobs, they leave people.

Nobody Announces That the Roof Isn't Leaking

Here is the irony. Businesses that genuinely do not have people problems never say it. Nobody looks up at a dry ceiling and announces the roof isn't leaking. Nobody walks out to a car that runs perfectly and says so. We only narrate the things we are managing around.

So if you have said "we don't have people problems" in the last month, ask yourself why you needed to say it.

And if you truly don't have them, call me. I want to know what you're doing so I can share it with the industry.

For everybody else, here's the reality. Every business that depends on people will have people problems. Every one. People aren't perfect. You aren't perfect. I'm not perfect. I make mistakes constantly, and I work to get better and put better processes in place, because systems that get followed and processes that are thorough do not let you down.

Want to know what I don't enjoy doing? Pull up my project management tool and look at my late tasks. That's me ignoring my own system. The system doesn't lie. And when I dig in, usually the answer is that the process is weak or the deadline was never as urgent as I made it. Those are my decisions as a leader.

Tolerating It Is a System Failing, Not a Person Failing

Right now I spend a lot of my time on field supervisors who avoid tough conversations. They tolerate tardiness. They tolerate attendance issues. They tolerate rework. They tolerate the guy who is a little toxic to the crew, because he does good work and we need the hands.

Ignore that long enough and it becomes the new normal. Then we tell ourselves we don't have people problems. It's just the industry. It's just kids these days. And the honest one: I don't want to say anything, because what if he quits and I'm down a person?

Flip that. What if you say nothing and he stays? Then your really good people leave instead. I stop the bleeding first with every client for exactly this reason, and toxic people on the team is always one of the first three things I look at.

The avoidance isn't a character flaw in your supervisor. It's a missing system. No mechanism to surface the issue, no cadence for accountability, no structure for coaching. Ruth King and I got into this on Contractor Cents, and Kyle Hunt and I went deep on it in Your People Aren't The Problem, Your Systems Might Be.

Common Is Not Normal, and Systems Are Fixable

Owners tell me it's no big deal because everybody deals with it. Common, yes. Normal, no. Those are different words.

Put the right systems in place and you buy yourself flexibility. You do not need an A player in every seat. You need a good, committed person who believes in where you're headed, dropped into a great system. That combination works magic.

And here's the best part. Systems break in ways you can fix. A new hire follows your process and finds the hole. Fine. Patch it. Fixing people is brutal. Fixing a process is Tuesday.

So the next time you catch yourself saying "we don't have people problems," finish the sentence honestly. Write down one thing that keeps happening with your team that you have been explaining away.

Then take the Bottleneck Test at corematters.com. Three minutes, and you will know where your business leaks.

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